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VC Prozac & thoughts on the Scottish entrepreneurial ecosystem

An eventful 24 hours in Edinburgh at the excellent Engage Invest Exploit and Techcrunch Edinburgh yesterday. Some lessons learned, and some reflections on the Scottish Entrepreneurial ecosystem.

Mike Butcher, Alex van Someren, a dangerous liquid

Mike Butcher, the unmistakable Nicko van Someren and a dangerous liquid

Love There is an incredible amount of support, energy and enthusiasm for entrepreneurs and entrepreneurship in Scotland. It was a delight to meet so many infectiously enthusiastic people who want to get on, or who are getting on, and doing stuff. People are founding companies, setting up networks and just getting on and getting stuff done. Invigorating. Energising. Exciting.

Money Investors take you seriously – up to a point. To pull organisations up to Scotland, which has not traditionally been seen as a hot bed of investment opportunities (more of which later) shows how far the ecosystem has developed in the past five years. Organisations represented from south of the border included VC investors and corporates such as Amadeus, Balderton, Index, Silicon Valley Bank, Google, BSkyB, as well as early stage investors including NESTA, IQ Capital, 4iP, Cambridge Angels.

To get their attention in the long term however, you need to be able to show a constant flow of great companies springing up and you need to be able to get on a plane or a train and get down to London which is where they all hang out. (I say that as someone who lives in Cambridge, a whole 45 minutes from central London). Very few VCs make the journey on a regular basis – why should they? If you are not making the effort to meet them, there are plenty of other people who will.

There is a gulf of difference between desire for capital and deserve for capital. Everyone in their right mind desires capital (at the right price). Investors, and professional investors in particular, get to see a lot of opportunities.None of them lack dealflow. Most of them lack a flow of deals that they feel they can do. It is easy to say as someone did to me, “Well if I was in Silicon Valley, I would get funding in a week.” Guess what, go to the Valley if it is that simple. investors want to see committed, talented people chasing big ideas.

One person I spoke to claimed to have a world class team, the company had been going for three years but when it came down to it, they were looking for £30,000 of investment to match £70,000 of public funding. This is not a credible opportunity for an institutional investor and frankly would be hard for an angel to make sense of. If this really was a world class team and had committed people, and they didn’t have £30,000 available what on earth happened?

If you want to raise VC funding, you need an idea that has the potential to be really, really, really big.

Greed Gordon Gekko, played in the film Wall Street by Catherine Zeta Jones’ great grandfather, famously said, ‘Greed is good’. I disagree but in a funny kind of way I would have really liked to see some people who wanted to make tons of money from their projects. Investors typically invest to make more money (certainly institutional ones). They look to invest in businesses run by smart people who understand how to go after big, growing markets and are willing to sacrifice almost everything and anything to get to their goal. These are not always the nicest people around but…

Driving ambition

Driving ambition

A few great companies does not an ecosystem make. Gareth Williams at Skyscanner was hugely impressive and maintained quite rightly that you could build a world class company in Scotland. He is.

I totally agree that you can but this is different to there being the right conditions to build lots of them at the same time. If there were forty or fifty companies in Edinburgh of the size of Skyscanner, the competition for the right people would be huge,  salaries would increase and you would start to lose some of the advantages that being located in Edinburgh gives you. In my home town of Cambridge, one very successful company, Redgate Software has upset other software companies by recruiting in the words on one prominent angel investor, ‘too aggressively’. (Redgate has hired an ice cream van to drive around science parks giving away free Redgate ice cream to potential software hires, offers free iPads to developers that have an interview amongst other things). They have to hustle in the market for people in a way that they didn’t when they were smaller as they are operating in an environment where there is huge pressure on talent.

The reality is there are very few places in the UK that have the critical mass of the right ingredients to support an effective ecosystem. Cambridge is often cited as being a shining example of an effective cluster but the sneaky truth is that a lot of startups in Cambridge end up going to London because they can’t get all the talent they need locally. (Or some of them can but there is not enough brilliant people for all the ideas).

On another scale, this is one of the reasons that Silicon Valley (actually a fairly wide area that contains a number of sub clusters of activity), is, and will remain, the powerhouse of innovation that it is. It has momentum, it attracts great people from all over the world – including Scotland, Cambridge and London (and China, Hungary, Russia, India, Spain, Norway, Brazil etc etc etc). It attracts investors who just want to go there to hear what other people in the valley are thinking even if they are not going to make any investments there. It has the infrastructure to support a vast startup ecosystem and other places don’t have the scale.

You don’t need no education – except you do, just a different kind. I don’t agree with Professor Anne Glover’s thesis that there should be more private sector investment in Scottish academic institutions as a remedy to commercialising science (though as science minister I would be surprised to hear that she would say anything else). The measures of academia have almost no direct effect on the commercial success downstream. Patents are an absurd measure of the commercial potential of research activity and the discussions around IP just seemed to show how far academia has to move to be of long term value to the commercial world. I don’t think we necessarily need more university courses in entrepreneurship.

Anyone in academia that wants to learn how to set up a business should – set up a business – even a market stall. Even if you fail to last a year, you will have learned more in that time than you ever could in classes. (And there is tonnes of public money available to support you in Scotland so go and work out how to get some of that).

We got involved in running a Silicon Valley comes to Cambridge event last year. There were several things in this that really made me think. Most memorably for me, the incredibly earnest MBA who asked Biz Stone, founder of Twitter what he looked for in the MBAs that he hired. His response was direct as he sad he would never hire an MBA into a start up. They have been taught to think inside a box and until you get to the sort of size – 70+ people, when the organisation can absorb them without doing too much damage, then you shouldn’t. ‘Running a start up is like riding a roller-coaster you go up and down and then you throw up.’ MBAs are not, in his opinion, good passengers on that journey.

In my view, the single best thing that can be done to support the commercialisation of science in academia is for academic institutions to get out of the way. Stop obsessing about IP, stop obsessing about patents and supporting (when you mean controlling) spin outs.

This is one of the reasons that I as so hugely impressed by the efforts of Informatics Ventures on Wednesday. They have taken a big risk with EIE to put your entrepreneurial ecosystem on the map. Investors came and saw stuff, much of it early. Lots of it exciting. Very little of it was the finished article but they got people there and Techcrunch and the indefatigable Mike Butcher got people talking, got them educated and got some conversations started. The kimono was opened and it did not feel to me like there was a huge amount of control being exercised. Great news. And ultimately, if you have a startup, it will succeed on the merits of the core team of people doing it, not on the quality of the support that you are given by tech transfer departments. That does not mean that tech transfer is irrelevant even if tech transfer departments often focus on the wrong things in the opinion of investors.

Leave depressed VCs alone. While I was writing my witterings, I picked up on this great post by Sam at Techmeetup who I was lucky to meet yesterday. I know the last session was a bit down about the opportunities that VCs see in Scotland. Talking VCs out of a depression isn’t going to work. They need Venture Prozac. The most effective medicine a VC can have is to see people making money.

The VCs that are successful work incredibly hard. Unbelievably hard. They are away from home often 3/4 days a week working to spot opportunities and support their portfolio companies. The reason that limited partners (the investors in VC funds) really like working with funds like Pentech and Scottish Equity Partners is they work hard and they travel for deals. Eddie is absolutely right. He can do deals across the UK and Europe and he will invest where he sees the greatest likelihood of return on his money.

As entrepreneurs in Edinburgh, you are not competing to be the biggest startup in Leith, or Edinburgh or Scotland. The conversation around Edinburgh, Glasgow, Stirling and Dundee being different silos of activity is frankly risible. You are all in it together. You are competing in a global market. You need to get out there and learn. When Scottish companies start to make massive amounts for money for their investors on a regular basis, you will find that Eddie’s mood has changed. It is not his responsibility to make it happen although I do believe it is his responsibility to make it clear under what conditions he would be happier which I think he has.

Conclusion. Visiting Scotland was an energising experience and I left feeling hugely optimistic about the emerging ecosystem. There is a long way to go but it is incredible to have been able to observe the changes in entrepreneurial culture and outlook over the past ten years. My guess is that the next ten years will see even more significant changes as the ecosystem develops, entrepreneurs become more confident and more and more people make a success of their businesses, with or without venture funding. The work that Informatics Ventures has done, (Andrew Mitchell in particular) has been awesome in attracting attention and capital.

Organisations like Techmeetup and GirlgeekScotland and Startupcafe do great stuff.

2010 is a very good time to be a startup in Scotland. I hope that everyone can find ways to work together to make sure that it gets better every year. One way to make that happen is to engage with the world south of the border. I hope to get back soon. Thanks for having me.

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The Good, The Bad, The Ugly – the new government, financial markets and enterprise

Another guest post from Michael Magnay, of Kleinwort Benson’s Private Wealth Management team who considers some of the likely implications of the new government on the financial markets and entrepreneurs.

The Good: The Election Result

5 days ago, I wrote that the electorate’s response to the election campaign was essentially a defeat for all the major parties. The politicians have turned that around in a very short space of time, such that this morning , most of them are feeling distinctly chirpy. For the Conservatives and Lib Democrats, the proximity to real power to govern the country has been sufficiently intoxicating to enable them both to make the compromises necessary. Thus the Conservatives end their longest period out of office since the nineteenth century, and the Liberals regain a place in government for the first time since 1945 – their MPs are very happy. The faultlines in this coalition are likely, in the long term, to be found in attitudes to Europe – it is not clear though just how firmly allied to the views of the base of his party, Mr Cameron really is on these issues. Even Labour MPs , one suspects are fairly happy – their much derided leader has resigned and very nobly (but deservedly) asserted full personal responsibility for their defeat, leaving none of the challengers for the empty post with anything to apologise for internally. In many ways too, this is likely to prove to be a good election to lose, with the prospect of the new government being forced to make unpopular spending cuts and tax increases – with their two main rivals in a formal coalition, Labour will be able to pin the same criticisms of Opposition onto both simultaneously.

For financial markets, given the electorate’s decision, this is clearly the best outcome, giving the prospect of a stable government with a clear majority in Parliament and a commitment to deal with the very pressing budget deficit issue. For GBP and the gilt markets the political news is positive. For equity markets though, a word of caution may be appropriate – it is clear that a “conventional” economic mindset will be in the Chancellor’s mind, in which sorting out the government’s finances will take a higher priority than delivering economic growth at least for the next couple of years – these will be difficulty times for the UK economy.

In this respect , the UK will be adopting similar economic policies to the rest of Europe – significant fiscal constraint offset by a very easy monetary policy. Interest rates in the UK and Europe are now likely to stay at current very low levels for several years to come, creating problems for conservative, income-needy investors, whilst economic growth is likely to remain sluggish.

The Bad: The European Position

Europe, too has seen its share of history over the weekend. The establishment of what is effectively a bailout fund and the direct intervention of the ECB in government bond markets, if not actually illegal, are clearly in flagrant breach of the spirit of the Maastricht treaty which established European Monetary Union. A new monetary infrastructure for EMU will now start to be developed, although the chances of this becoming enshrined in a formal new Treaty requiring ratification seem unlikely for now. For Germany this will pose considerable political problems – last weekend they were forced to choose between solidarity with their EMU partners and the stability of their currency – their leaders chose solidarity, but the opinion polls in Germany show that a huge majority would have preferred the choice to have gone the other way , and that no bailout money should be made available to countries which cannot afford to service their debts, and those countries pushed out of the club which they were never expected to join for precisely the reasons we have just witnessed.

These are momentous days in European history, but I fear they are not the precursor to a new period of great prosperity; rather, sadly, they are the precursor to a period of falling living standards.

The Ugly: Capital Gains Tax

It appears that capital gains for non-business assets will be increased from the current level of 18% to either 40% or 50%. Under John Major’s last government the rate of CGT was aligned with the top rate of income tax.

(This chart is taken from a previous post on this subject. You can read more here and here).

Tax and Capital Gains Tax Rates in previous governments

Tax and Capital Gains Tax Rates in previous governments

We may see a budget on 24th June. Historically tax rises have only taken effect from the start of any given tax year, this may be the exception that proves the rule.

The Mansion Tax has been dropped.

Michael can be contacted by phone at: +44 (0) 1223 454 561

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If you are the founder or CEO of a growth business and you want to know how to get into a position where you are faced with the problems of paying Capital Gains Tax, come along to our BLN Growth Forum on 15th July. Hear what these people have to say about how they grew their organisations:

  • Tudor Brown, founder & President of ARM Holdings
  • Mark Zaleski, as CEO, led QXL Ricardo to $1.1 billion exit, CEO/Chairman of DailyMotion
  • Michael Ross, visionary founding CEO of Figleaves.com, co-founder of eCommera
  • Terry Burt, founder & CEO of 2e2 one of the fastest growing IT service providers in Europe with 1,500+ employees
  • Ted Shelton, CEO, The Conversation Group
  • David Harbord, CEO of Warehouse Express
  • Mark Sebba, CEO, Net a Porter
  • Richard Longdon, CEO, Aveva
  • Martin Leuw, CEO of IRIS, has led its growth from revenues of £9m to over £130m p.a.
  • Hermann Hauser, Amadeus Capital Partners, big thinking founding investor in 7 $billion companies
  • David Soskin, Chair of MySupermarket.co.uk, CheapFlights.com and Swapit.co.uk
  • Head of Corporate Development, AVG
  • Henri Winand, CEO, Intelligent Energy
  • Russell Buckley, CEO EMEA, VP Alliances, AdMob, Sold to Google in 2009 for $750 million
  • Al Gosling, CEO and Founder, The Extreme Group

The BLN Growth Forum is supported by BDO and Ideaspace.

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Why do we need to care about PIIGS anyway?

Here are two brilliant videos from Paddy Hirsch, Senior Editor of Marketplace in the US. He has made a name for himself for producing some of  the most insightful, and easy to understand explanations about what is going on in the world financial markets. If you ever wondered why the Greek banking crisis  is such a big deal for us all, and what caused it, then these are well worth a watch.

Who or what are PIIGS? Why are they a problem?

Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain are the naughty PIIGS.

The big bad wolf for those poor little PIIGS, (Actually they have just borrowed too much), is counterparty risk.

So now you know. Thanks Paddy.

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Finding the latest information on Volcano Ash Cloud travel disruption

With a new round of ash cloud inspired travel disruptions over the weekend, and some flights to be caught this week, I wanted to try to find a place where you could find out which airports are affected from the volcano fall out. With more possible volcanic activity to come, I assumed there would be a good site that gave me some up to date information bout airport closures, flight delays and forecasts.

Iceland Volcanoes and Tectonic Plates

Iceland Volcanoes and Tectonic Plates

USELESS

Easyjet was my first port of call, stunningly useless so I tried the Met Office Web site.

The Met Office site was equally useless as far as travel was concerned. Their most ‘timely advice’ was over 27 hours old but they did note that all decisions about flight restrictions were made by the Civil Aviation Authority.

At the CAA website, as at 12.30 on Monday 10th May, the most recent information about the ash cloud was released on 5th May and, ‘hope that no restrictions will be necessary.’ They also suggested looking at the NATS site.

USEFUL

The National Air Traffic Service has a brief update on their home page that probably gives the best macro view of what is happening: http://www.nats.co.uk/ Note: This does not include information about individual airports.

The BBC Travel News section has a list of UK airports that are affected including an overview of the types of flights that will be affected – Transatlantic, domestic, Continental etc. Note: In each case, it suggests that you check with your airline before you do anything.

If anyone knows of any other useful sites, please let me know. Meanwhile I am going to Edinburgh tomorrow on the train. Choo choo.

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Twitter Weekly Updates for 2010-05-09

  • Thx for RT http://bit.ly/azO2KG @richardtyler Labour & Conservative CGT/Tax rates surprised me too. http://bit.ly/byWHnf #
  • #VC #angel valuation caps on convertible notes explained by @martinkl Geeky but good! http://bit.ly/dtlZFJ #
  • Huge turnout at Polling Station this morning. 30 minute wait – very social. Isn't democracy great? #ge2010 #
  • I have now won the same number of General Elections as Gordon Brown. Think I will form a government. #
  • 10% of iPad traffic is from outside US even though Apple has not launched iPad elsewhere. http://bit.ly/9GJQI #
  • How about a Labour Conservative coalition to keep the Lib Dems and all those inconvenient minority parties out? #

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The Election’s Economic Elephant in the Room

A guest post today from the excellent Michael Magnay, of Kleinwort Benson’s Private Wealth Management team who points out the almost total lack of transparency that any of the political parties have had about the disastrous state of the UK’s public finances.

1) NONE OF THE ABOVE

Oh dear. The UK public have had their say and the answer seems to be “None of the Above”. Together Labour and the Lib Dems do not have a majority, and the Conservatives and their traditional Irish allies also do not have a majority. Total left-of-centre MPs looks likely to be 330, total right-of-centre MPs looks likely to be 315, with 4 Sinn Fein who traditionally do not turn up and 1 Speaker. This is a very messy and unfortunate result for £ financial markets.

Gordon Brown as sitting Prime Minister has first go at trying to establish a majority in Parliament. This could be achieved by entering into a formal coalition with the Lib Dems, with 2 or 3 Cabinet posts (Vince Cable still has a shot at being Chancellor), and a promise of a referendum on PR for future elections within a short space of time. Some carrots to the Scottish and Welsh Nationalists in the form of protection against spending cuts would probably ensure their support and in a crisis he could rely on support from the Green MP and the SDLP MP. Thus a left-of-centre majority could be put together, but the bargaining power of the small parties would massively complicate the ability to cut government spending meaningfully. It is likely that in this scenario that Gordon Brown would offer to step down at some convenient point – he does not come across as the sort of leader who would enjoy having to keep many different interest groups sweet, and almost certainly the Lib Dems would demand a different PM. This is a complicated but plausible scenario, and would not be welcomed by the gilt and foreign exchange markets.

For the Conservatives the result means that if they wish to hold power they would have to find some accommodation with the Lib Dems at least to support a package of measures for a first Queen’s Speech. To date they have given little indication of wishing to do that but reality may prevail. There is however no chance that they would offer a referendum on PR, so something quite powerful would need to be offered to the Lib Dems instead. It should be clear to all involved though that at the first opportunity the Conservatives would look to have another election (which only they could afford) to achieve a majority, so this does not look like a stable solution. It would almost certainly cramp their ability to reduce the deficit quickly.

The Lib Dems are potentially caught between a rock and a hard place. The first solution could easily be characterised as a Club of Losers desperately doing deals in order to hang on to power at any cost – if the markets rebelled at the slow pace of deficit reduction it could put back the idea of 3 party politics and coalitions for a long time to come. Equally they have little bargaining power, they have to appear to ready to deal and the Conservatives may not have to offer them very much , so that they are a very junior partner in any alliance to be discarded as soon as is convenient.

2) THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

A common feature of the campaigns of all 3 major political parties was the total lack of transparency with regard to telling the public the true state of the public finances and what will have to be done to put them right. Indeed if one was only to go by the fiscal tightening measures actually detailed in any of the manifestos, then by the end of the life of next Parliament, Britain would have approximately the same deficit and debt position as Greece, which in the period since the manifestoes came out has effectively gone bankrupt. This was the elephant in the room throughout the campaign, and the politicians resolutely refused to turn round and look at it. This could be an issue because there is not a mandate from the election to take the painful action that will be required. At its simplest , the current level of public spending was envisaged for an economy that was at least 10% larger than it is today. This “structural deficit” is thus of the order of £70bn, the rest of the deficit can be characterised as “cyclical” and can be expected to reduce naturally as growth returns to the economy – the problem though is that the very act of reducing the structural deficit (which could be achieved for example by raising the basic rate of income tax from 20% to 30% and by raising VAT from 17.5% to 24%) is likely to reduce economic growth and so make the cyclical deficit much worse.

A new Prime Minister can be expected to come out quite quickly with news that the public finances in a much worse condition than has been previously admitted – this can be painlessly achieved by adjusting the future expected economic growth rates, and blaming Gordon Brown for this terrible inheritance. The financial markets will not be too surprised, but it is now very important, following the Greek crisis and its contagious effects on markets in Portugal, Ireland and Spain, that there is a seriousness of intent and a credibly detailed plan to deal with the deficit brought forward fairly quickly. The ratings agencies have previously indicated that they have been holding off a more negative assessment of the UK’s credit rating pending the election, and any new government’s plans.

3) LAST NIGHT IN THE US MARKETS

Globally equity markets have in recent week been spooked by developments in the eurozone, and last night saw the Dow Jones Index fall 600 points in 3 minutes for no apparent reason , before regaining all the ground in the next 5 minutes. This highlights the continued relative lack of liquidity in markets and febrile sentiment despite the huge rally of the last 14 months. Such market skittishness is not a great backdrop to the uncertainties now within the UK political system.

We continue to monitor closely the impact on markets. Despite the marked sell-off overnight in the US the UK market has been resilient and is currently down 0.6% at 5229. GBP /USD has weakened markedly in the past few days as macro views have been expressed through the most liquid medium.

Equities continue to look underowned relative to bonds as they offer a better hedge against sovereign credit risk and longer term inflation. The uncertainty we are currently seeing provides opportunity for those prepared to take a degree of measured risk, however patience is a virtue. The European market is inexpensive on 10.5x next year and we continue to forecast strong growth in both the US and Asia.

Michael can be contacted by phone at: +44 (0) 1223 454 561

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The absurdity of confusing Capital Gains Tax (CGT) with Income Tax

“Taxing capital gains at the same rates as income, so that all the money you make is taxed in the same way.” Liberal Democrat Manifesto.

Fair?

When you ‘earn’ money on the Lottery, you don’t pay any tax.

Here is a rough working for a company that has been built from scratch by an entrepreneur over 15 years. These numbers are simple and based on some basic (and unrealistic) assumptions for the sake of simplicity.

Assumptions:

  • An entrepreneur founds a business and grows it organically (without external investment) over 15 years at a steady rate of 20% a year.
  • In year one her turnover is £500,000.
  • She has one employee for every £100,000 of revenue.
  • Employees are paid on average £30,000 which means that about £7,300 is taken as Tax and National Insurance.
  • She pays Corporation Tax on her profits which are 20% of revenue but ploughs any profit over a £ 100,000 back into the business.
  • When she sells the business, she sells it for 5x profits in year of sale.

In this relatively simple scenario, the business would be sold for £6,419,592.

Is it right that this payment should be taxed at 50%?

Consider this.

  • Over this time the entrepreneur has paid over £10,805,000 in wages.
  • She has provided employment for 64 people. Jobs that were not there before.
  • She has paid over £1,800,000 in Corporation Tax.
  • She has paid over £2,629,000 in PAYE and National Insurance. (Plus another £1,383,000 in employer contribution that I forgot to include in original post. Thanks Tim at BDO).
  • She has taken £1,500,000 out of the business during this time. (Although this is likely to be far less as in the early years she would not have taken out the full £100,000 as she would have been likely to reinvest this into the business).

So, having created 64 jobs, paid over £16,700,000 to the state and to employees, having taken an enormous risk and probably worked 100 hour weeks to get to the point she has, she then pays another £3,200,000 to the state leaving her with the same amount. The scenario could be so different. She could have gone bust after 10 years and been left with nothing, (she will still have paid her taxes). Entrepreneurs have to take big risks – they mortgage their properties, they survive on as little as possible, they do what they need to do to make things happen in their business.

If politicians decide to penalise entrepreneurs for making the sacrifices they do then they are not going to get my vote.

Give entrepreneurs a break. They work hard, take risks and create wealth and employment. The least they deserve is a break when it comes to an exit. (And, when they exit they are FAR more likely to use that money to do something else that creates wealth than any other section of the community).

You can download the spreadsheet that I put together to produce these numbers here. It is not completely accurate – it is a rule of thumb and if anyone wants to refine it, please feel free to do so. Capital Gains Tax Calculation

You can see here how the two things have been treated historically by Labour and Conservative governments.

Make your own mind up about who you vote for.

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If you are the founder or CEO of a growth business and you want to know how to get into a position where you are faced with the problems of paying Capital Gains Tax, come along to our BLN Growth Forum on 15th July. Hear what these people have to say about how they grew their organisations:

  • Tudor Brown, founder & President of ARM Holdings
  • Mark Zaleski, as CEO, led QXL Ricardo to $1.1 billion exit, CEO/Chairman of DailyMotion
  • Michael Ross, visionary founding CEO of Figleaves.com, co-founder of eCommera
  • Terry Burt, founder & CEO of 2e2 one of the fastest growing IT service providers in Europe with 1,500+ employees
  • David Harbord, CEO of Warehouse Express
  • Mark Sebba, CEO, Net a Porter
  • Martin Leuw, CEO of IRIS, has led its growth from revenues of £9m to over £130m p.a.
  • Hermann Hauser, Amadeus Capital Partners, big thinking founding investor in 7 $billion companies
  • David Soskin, Chair of MySupermarket.co.uk, CheapFlights.com and Swapit.co.uk
  • Head of Corporate Development, AVG
  • Henri Winand, CEO, Intelligent Energy
  • Russell Buckley, CEO EMEA, VP Alliances, AdMob, Sold to Google in 2009 for $750 million
  • Al Gosling, CEO and Founder, The Extreme Group

The BLN Growth Forum is supported by BDO and Ideaspace.

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Capital Gains Tax is NOT Income Tax #Leadersdebate

I am not going to tell anyone how to vote but this is interesting information about the effective rates of income tax and capital gains tax.

Remember that capital gains tax is paid when an entrepreneur sells a business.

To have done this, they have had to build something of value, something that has been paying employees who have paid tax and national insurance, corporation tax etc. For anyone to treat capital gains tax and income tax as the same thing is a liability to the economy and has no clue about what drives the economy forward.

If you are an entrepreneur, or care about private enterprise and the future of the economy of this country, this is an important distinction.

Tax and Capital Gains Tax Rates

Tax and Capital Gains Tax Rates

This is the end of this non-party political broadcast.

To paraphrase my favourite physicist, Professor Brian Cox, ‘Anyone that thinks Capital Gains Tax is the same as Income Tax – is a Twat’.

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